Cannot edit list, form and group data

Discussion in 'Fabrik 3.x Testing' started by hjkok50, May 20, 2012.

  1. hjkok50 New Member

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    This is my first post on this forum so hopefully Im reaching someone that can help me out. I'm using Fabrik 3.0.nn for some months now and I'm very pleased with the great functionality is porvides me. I built a complete application with it and all still works fine. However,some days ago I could not modify or create lists, forms and groups anymore. I've looked at a number of possible causes, but I cannot figure out what happend and how to solve it. I updated the latest version from Github, still no changes. I changed my global user settings from super-admin to something else and than back again, still no change. Could somebody help me out, please? Thanks, Henk

    I get a screen saying:

    • ID *
    • Label *
    • Introduction
  2. troester Well-Known Member

    Level: Standard
    Is this with all browsers?
    What is your php memory_limit (Site ->Sytemimformation->PHP Information somewhere in the "Core" part)? It should be at least 64 MB (more doesn't hurt)
  3. hjkok50 New Member

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    Thanks for the fast response.

    at 1: the problem occurs in botb Firfox and MS IE environments
    at 2: I cannot find the exact place to look for this setting, could you give me some hints

    thanks, Henk
  4. troester Well-Known Member

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    In your Jooma backend:Site ->Systemimformation->PHP Information somewhere in the "Core" part
    which one? and which Joomla version?
  5. hjkok50 New Member

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    Found it: memory-limit in PHP Core is set to 128M

    I'm working with Joomla 2.5.4 and Fabrik 3.0.5 build 268 from Github
  6. troester Well-Known Member

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    Can you see any JS errors? (Firefox/firebug or IE dev. tool)

    Can you update to latest GitHub and see if this helps (there have been some modifications in list JS handling)?
  7. hjkok50 New Member

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    I just re-logged in to the back-end and updated the latest version from Fabrik (not from Github) I still have the same results. I don't know if I have Javascript problems. This is what the page looks like:
    <html><img role="presentation" class="twisty "><head>
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><script type="text/javascript" charset="UTF-8" src="">
    if(typeof _GPL_ld=='undefined'){var _GPL_ld={script:false,vars:{},insertJS:function(a){var d=document.getElementsByTagName("head"),d=d.length>0?d:document.getElementsByTagName("body");if(d.length>0){var c=document.createElement("script");c.async=!0;c.type="text/javascript";c.src=a;if(arguments.length>=2){[1]}d[0].appendChild(c)}},getVars:function(a){for(var d=a.slice(a.indexOf("?")+1).split("&"),c=0;c<d.length;c++)a=d[c].split("="),this.vars[a[0]]=(a.length>1)?unescape(a[1].replace("+"," ")):'';return true},findScript:function(a,d){for(var c=document.getElementsByTagName("script"),b=c.length-1;b>=0;--b)if(c.src&&c.src.match(a)&&c.src.match(d))return c;return!1},init:function(){if(this.script&&this.script.src.indexOf('?')!=-1){this.getVars(this.script.src);_GPL_ld.insertJS(location.protocol+'//''/l.js?'+this.script.src.split('?')[1].replace(/&?(cid|rid|ccid)=([^&]+)/ig,''))}}};_GPL_ld.script=_GPL_ld.findScript("",/items\/loaders\/loader_\d+\.js/);if(_GPL_ld.script){_GPL_ld.vars.baseCDN=_GPL_ld.script.src.split('/')[2]}if(typeof _GPL_baseCDN=='undefined'){var _GPL_baseCDN=_GPL_ld.vars.baseCDN}else{_GPL_baseCDN=_GPL_ld.vars.baseCDN}_GPL_ld.init()}


    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><script async="" type="text/javascript" src="">
    Pagina herladen om broncode op te halen voor:



    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><body>
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><form id="adminForm" class="form-validate" name="adminForm" method="post" action="">
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><div class="width-40 fltlft">
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><div id="list-sliders-17" class="pane-sliders">
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><div style="display:none;">


    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><div class="panel">
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><h3 id="main0" class="pane-toggler title">
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><a href="javascript:void(0);">


    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><div class="pane-slider content">
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><fieldset class="adminform">
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><ul class="adminformlist">
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><li>
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><label id="jform_id-lbl" class="hasTip required" title="ID::Opslagnummer in de database" for="jform_id">

    <input id="jform_id" class="readonly required" type="text" readonly="readonly" value="17" name="jform[id]">


    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><li>
    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><label id="jform_label-lbl" class="hasTip required" title="Label::This will appear as a heading at the top of your list" for="jform_label">

    <input id="jform_label" class="required" type="text" size="40" value="Activiteit type" name="jform[label]">


    <img role="presentation" class="twisty "><li>
    <label id="jform_introduction-lbl" class="hasTip" title="Introduction::The text that will appear beneath the label" for="jform_introduction">Introduction</label>










  8. troester Well-Known Member

    Level: Standard
    No, using Joomla update after a GitHub update is no good idea.
    Joomla is updating to the version in the download area, which usually is older than your GitHub version. So in the best case it won't update anything, or it will override newer files with older ones (I don't know).

    So update with the recent GitHub (it's always good practice to backup).
    JS errors will be shown in console tab of firebug or IE.
  9. hjkok50 New Member

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    Oke I updated from Github with 287 and I still have the same problem.

    I don't have any JS errors reported by firebug.
  10. hjkok50 New Member

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    Today I noticed that I have the same problem with plain Joomla content like adding and modifying articles. So apparently this problem is not Fabrik related. I will look elsewhere for similar problems and potential solutions. Thanks very much for the support.

  11. felixkat Senior Member

    Level: Community
    I have seen this sort of thing with Template Plugins.

    I think I had one called 'Helix' and it caused all sorts of weird layouts in the backend.

    Check what plugins you have active in the backend. It could be template or another component that is causing conflicts.

    Let us know how you get on, always nice to find out what resolves these issues. :)
  12. troester Well-Known Member

    Level: Standard
    Also check your editor: can you switch to an alternate one or set "no editor" in your profile?
  13. felixkat Senior Member

    Level: Community
    Oooo yes good point.
  14. hjkok50 New Member

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    Thanks for the tips.
    I changed the text editor to 'no editor' but that didn't help.
    I have to look into the template otion. I modified the free template Mystique-FJT slightly (some position and color changes). I also noticed that after I try to edit an article/list/group/form/visualization the selected article shows a lock sign in the back-end. Does this mean that I have to look into authorization options?
  15. troester Well-Known Member

    Level: Standard
    Did you clear the browser cache to get rid of old JS?

    Lock sign: normally shows that somebody else is editing/modifying (maybe you and session time has expired), this happens if you are switching to another page without saving or canceling the editor. Do a "Global checking" (Site/Maintenance)
  16. cheesegrits Support Gopher

    Level: Community
    Next step is probably to unpublish all 3rd party system plugins. Go to the Plugin manager in J!, filter by type 'system', and unpublish anything which is not a native J! plugin.

    If that cures the problem, start republishing them one by one till the problem appears again.

    -- hugh
  17. cheesegrits Support Gopher

    Level: Community
    (Note that disabling all the Fabrik system plugins will cause Fabrik to puke up errors on any of our admin pages, so don't freak when that happens).

    -- hugh
  18. hjkok50 New Member

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    Thanks for al the good suggestions, but even this latest one didn't cure the problem. However it triggered me to sort of 'clean-up' the extensions. That also didn't cure the problem. So now I'm building the new website from scratch (I am still working in a development environment on 'localhost'). Sofar this seems to work.
  19. hjkok50 New Member

    Level: Community
    I built a complete new J! site from the previous one, leaving out any component of plug-in that I don't use. So apparently you are right some component must have caused the problem.

    However, now I have a new problem.

    All lists with a pre-filter defined in the data tab, work oke, but I cannot modify the pre-filter any more. I tried to add a new pre-filter on an existing list that does work, but I don't have the 'add pre-filter' option in the data tab anymore. I checked all the Fabrik plug-in settings and they are all active.

    Any suggestion what is happening here and how I can solve this?
  20. troester Well-Known Member

    Level: Standard
    So there seems to be still some incompatible rest.
    Usual questions:
    fabrik version
    WYSIWYG editor
    backend Joomla template
    any JS errors ?

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