Upgrade Fabrik from J3! to J5! not sure how to do it

[karlis]

Hello! I've read the posts on upgrading from J3 to J5, but I'm still not sure how to do it.
My NEW site is running J5! without Fabrik.
My OLD stie is running J3! with Fabrik and all the associated tables etc. There is nothing customized.
I want to upgrade from Fabrik 3.1 to the latest Fabrik, which as I understand must be done on the OLD site. But how do I get it all intact from the OLD site to the NEW? I'm just a bit confused.

 

[troester]

So you don't want to update your old site (i.e. update the old site from J!3 to J!5)
But you want to move your old Fabrik application into your already existing new site.

Fabrik 3.1 is really very, very old, the database structure has changed since then. So first update Fabrik on the old site:
As usual:
Make a copy of your old site (files and database), make sure to open and resave the Fabrik connection on this site-copy.
Update Joomla to the latest J!3
Install Fabrik 3.10
You may get it from
https://fabrikar.com/download-archive
Disable all Fabrik extensions.

Then do
https://fabrikar.com/forums/index.p...-your-development-site-to-your-live-site-8203
You only need to do the database part.
(If you had custom files like custom templates, scripts etc. (you say you don't) they had to be adapted for Fabrik4 anyway, this could be done later)

Install Fabrik 4 (and keep fingers crossed).

Open and re-save the Fabrik connection on your new site.

Test, test...

 

[karlis]

So you don't want to update your old site (i.e. update the old site from J!3 to J!5)
But you want to move your old Fabrik application into your already existing new site.

Fabrik 3.1 is really very, very old, the database structure has changed since then. So first update Fabrik on the old site:
As usual:
Make a copy of your old site (files and database), make sure to open and resave the Fabrik connection on this site-copy.
Update Joomla to the latest J!3
Install Fabrik 3.10
You may get it from
https://fabrikar.com/download-archive
Disable all Fabrik extensions.

Then do
https://fabrikar.com/forums/index.p...-your-development-site-to-your-live-site-8203
You only need to do the database part.
(If you had custom files like custom templates, scripts etc. (you say you don't) they had to be adapted for Fabrik4 anyway, this could be done later)

Install Fabrik 4 (and keep fingers crossed).

Open and re-save the Fabrik connection on your new site.

Test, test...

OK, let me see if I got this straight. I'm a bit nervous about this.
My basic question is this -- it seems that all I do on the old J!3 site (it is all updated as specified) is zip the Fabrik tables and then import them into a copy of my live J!5 site. That the upgrading of the tables take place on the J!5 site copy. Is this correct?

 

[troester]

I'm a bit nervous about this.

Always run a test upgrade on a copy of your live site first!
Log your steps, including errors etc., so you can replicate.
Use something like Akeeba-Backup to create a andbox copy of your J!5 site.

is zip the Fabrik tables

I corrected the WIKI (export from phpMyAdmin is SQL format), so

• Use PhpMyAdmin or a similar database management tool, export, as a SQL file, all of your #__fabrik* tables and any tables your Fabrik Lists use to store data in
• Import to your sandbox site using your database utility of choice (eg phpMyAdmin, Navicat).

• Install Fabrik 4 (and keep fingers crossed).
  
  
• Open and re-save the Fabrik connection on your new site.

As I said:
The usual upgrade procedure would be upgrading your existing J!3 site, this is what the upgrade WIKI is for.

But you are trying to insert an old Fabrik installation into a new J! site.
So once again:
Don't do it on your live site but in a sandbox!!

Test, test...
Test first in backend: all lists there, all data there, etc. etc.
If you have user elements the user data is surely not the same and you must adapt manually etc.

Then create your Fabrik menu items, modules, whatever you had.
Test, test again

If all is ok you may repeat these steps on your live site.
Or - if your live site didn't change at all in the meantime (no new content, no new users, whatever) - you may replace the live site with this upgraded site.
Always do backups.

 

[karlis]

Always run a test upgrade on a copy of your live site first!
Log your steps, including errors etc., so you can replicate.
Use something like Akeeba-Backup to create a andbox copy of your J!5 site.



I corrected the WIKI (export from phpMyAdmin is SQL format), so

• Use PhpMyAdmin or a similar database management tool, export, as a SQL file, all of your #__fabrik* tables and any tables your Fabrik Lists use to store data in
• Import to your sandbox site using your database utility of choice (eg phpMyAdmin, Navicat).
• Install Fabrik 4 (and keep fingers crossed).
  
  
• Open and re-save the Fabrik connection on your new site.

As I said:
The usual upgrade procedure would be upgrading your existing J!3 site, this is what the upgrade WIKI is for.

But you are trying to insert an old Fabrik installation into a new J! site.
So once again:
Don't do it on your live site but in a sandbox!!

Test, test...
Test first in backend: all lists there, all data there, etc. etc.
If you have user elements the user data is surely not the same and you must adapt manually etc.

Then create your Fabrik menu items, modules, whatever you had.
Test, test again

If all is ok you may repeat these steps on your live site.
Or - if your live site didn't change at all in the meantime (no new content, no new users, whatever) - you may replace the live site with this upgraded site.
Always do backups.

Thank you! Keeping fingers crossed!

 

[karlis]

Ok. I've run into 2 problems.
1) lib_fabrik_vendor4.1 will not install. I've tried installing the whole Fabrik package. I've installed the individual files. Everything installs except this library.
2) Under the Fabrik component I get this error: "Fabrik cannot find files required for this version of Joomla. DO NOT use the Fabrik backend admin until this is resolved. Please visit our web site and check for announcements about this version"
I am using Joomla 5.2.2. PHP 8.3.6,

Upload Max Filesize	150M
Post Max Size	200M
Memory Limit	400M

 

[troester]

Latest Fabrik is Fabrik4.4.1.
https://fabrikar.com/fabrik-base-infos

If you need the libraries at all (e.g. for PDF) you must additionally install Fabrik Libraries V4.2