Fabrik V4.1 Now Available for Download

[achartier]

Perhaps we need to bring back the Donate button for just these situations? We dropped it when we set up the donation subscription.

 

[juuser]

My opinion may not be popular amongst some users, but I'm quite sure 99% of the subscribers could afford a bit higher subscription fee than the current one. I'm pretty sure something like $50 per year wouldn't break the bank even for the ones using Fabrik for voluntary / non-profit organizations.

Well, you can always think that if someone could afford more, they can make a separate donation, but many probably will not as they consider they have kinda already paid a "full" price for the product.

 

[lori19]

Hi there

Let me advocate a little bit for the international perspective.
The setting of the pricing point ibecomes difficult when you're in other (=non western) countries. I agree with the 50$, no worries. But I'd like to put them into my Kenyan context. 50$ translates to about 6800 Kenyan Shilling which is about the price you pay per year for the cheapest hosting package. Kenya is doing relatively well, in some of its neighbour countries, the currency has an even lower buying power and 50$ can seem a litter fortune.
I have no solution for this, just wanted to mention it.

Kindly,
Lorenz

 

[juuser]

I absolutely understand that the value of 1$ varies a lot through different parts of the world. And I'm not saying that 50$ is the only right amount, but something like 4-5$ per month should be affordable for most users (maybe not for the every single one).

And my only point for this post was that I want to see a long future for Fabrik.

P.S. The cheapest hosting package I use in EU is also about $50 a year, so this seems to relate to Kenya almost 1:1.

Hi there

Let me advocate a little bit for the international perspective.
The setting of the pricing point ibecomes difficult when you're in other (=non western) countries. I agree with the 50$, no worries. But I'd like to put them into my Kenyan context. 50$ translates to about 6800 Kenyan Shilling which is about the price you pay per year for the cheapest hosting package. Kenya is doing relatively well, in some of its neighbour countries, the currency has an even lower buying power and 50$ can seem a litter fortune.
I have no solution for this, just wanted to mention it.

Kindly,
Lorenz

 

[dimoss]

Hi all,

We should not forget where we were 1 year ago and where we are now after the tremendous effort of the team who decided to take the lead and give us back this powerful component, stable and ready to work faultless with J4.x and recently with J5.x.

When we think about it, it will be easier to calculate the value.

 

[Slacker]

When I worked in Vietnam 1989-1990 it was a very poor country. The mean monthly salary was 3 USD but a minister had 12 USD. Our interpreters wanted 14 USD/month and we asked for that from our boss that said: It is very difficult to explain why a 20 years old should earn more than a minister. We had to agree on that. Today they have much higher salaries, but 20 USD a year can be a challenge for poor countries. I have just paid the subscription and hope that more will follow.

 

[lori19]

Hi there

For me, it is also important, how the subscription model will develop. And how the idea of open source is maintained. For example, what about a developer tier? I would happily pay also a three digit price when it allows me to use Fabrik in an unlimited or reasonably big number of installations. This cost I can also move to my employer. And what happened, if the subscription is not payed anymore? Does Fabrik stop to work entirely or does "just" stop updating?

Kindly,
Lorenz

 

[troester]

There's no restriction on the number of installations.
And if the subscription has expired you won't get updates anymore but your Fabrik version won't stop working (as long as it is compatible with updated J! or php versions etc).

Developer tier: https://bitbucket.org/fabrikar/fabrik/src/master/
Pull requests for fixes and enhancements are welcome.

 

[achartier]

As far as open source is concerned all of the Fabrik source except the vendor libraries is available on Bitbucket. We have a separate repository for the build system which includes the vendor libraries.

 

[Slacker]

If there are 2000 downloads does not mean that 2000 is using Fabrik 4 I think it is maximally 1000 and then 130 subscriptions is not so bad. I think the subscriptions will increase as they understand that they must upgrade. In addition additional new users should appear that have to subscribe to use Fabrik. Maybe a couple of hundred a year. Also there might be users of Joomla 3 with Fabrik that need to upgrade Fabrik also. So after a year subscriptions will be higher. A new must have feature should also increase subscriptions.

 

[achartier]

All you say is true. We are not trying to get rich on this, just keep the product alive. I have 5 website that have multiple Fabrik applications, mostly small ones, but Fabrik makes it so easy to build them. I cannot begin to fathom what the cost would be to build these without Fabrik. Probably I wouldn't, and my websites would be far less useful.

 

[Slacker]

Yeah, Fabrik is very useful. I have made 10 self tests with it and its the most popular content of my site despite an app and 10 000 articles. Apps are not so popular as you can imagine.